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Dame da omotte yagare?!

I remember crying at that scene... and it was the very first episode! Early Pokemon truly was the best.

>>9938403
Ash

And in the next chapter, Team Rocket is actually kinda sorta menacing.

Then in the following they get beaten by a Catterpie and never recover from that.

I liked it better when GL started it. Fucking pokemon.

>>9938418
No. Just don't.
Learn the language first.

>>9938536

/r/ starlock

>>9938439
>>9938465
Amen, the early episodes actually did a little justice to the games. Then it all went down hill about when Ash traded in his hat for a new one. I don't remember if it was age, or that I was bored, but I know I stopped watching sometime around then.

>>9938403
Phoenix wright!

>>9938536
Those glasses don't make fucking sense with the bill of his cap.

Logic can only be kicked so far!

Early pokemon was about pwning.

Modern pokemon is about being friends and helping the world. Yaaay~ A magical adventure with friends and family.

>>9938418
俺は誰だと思っている。

>>9938710
俺を誰だと思ってる

First 5 or so episodes of Pokemon are good. After that it's all crap.

Pidgeotto.

remember that psychotic early pokemon guy? the one who trained his fucking rock/ground type sandshrew to be strong against FUCKING WATER!?

Whatever happened to hin? He was pokemanly.

>>9938737
性感がありません。

>>9938784
Let's not forget the limit pushing bastardian way ash made pikachu so powerful.

排卵がないから。

I shed manly tears.

>>9938784
Fuck yeah, that guy was hardcore.

I have a theory.

The accident with the bike? It put Ash in a coma. three days later he was found and pumped full of painkillers. This is why team rocket became less menacing. The drugs kicked in and stabilized his coma dreams, instead of being terrifying, they became idyllic, and he's able to live out his pokemon master fantasies.

>>9938641
Ryuuichi GARuhodou.

mooooooooooooooooooo....

>>9938852
So the reason he never truly becomes a master is because that would mean he'd have nothing left to dream, and would wake up from his coma?

Brilliant.

>>9938852

Holy shit, I love it.

>>9938864
MitGARugi Reiji.

>>9938784 pokemanly
Haha, oh God.

>>9938882
Manfred von GARma.
Damon GARnt.
GARdot.

>>9938870
It's also the reason that every time he enters a new region, virtually no one has heard of him, despite his conquests, and why givoanni leads team rocket. Ash has daddy issues, so he put his dad atop the evil corporation, and he just can't picture himself as famous, so he essentially adopts a new identity every few months.

>>9938870
Last episode he wakes up, realizes it was a dream, and Pokemon then becomes the anime version of Dallas.

>>9938922
Holy shit, it keeps on getting more and more genius.

>>9938922
Holy shit. I don't know whether to baw at my childhood memories or lol.

pikachu use thunder bolt!

I approve of this thread.

>>9938922
Yeah seriously...how could that Paul douche NOT know of someone who has placed in at least the top 16 of all three leagues and has destroyed the Orange league and Battle Frontier.

>>9938922
Also explains why he doesn't change much physically.

>>9938953
>>9938971
Holy shitmind?

>>9938403

... Nothing, I'm no one.

>>9938991
And why he hasn't fucked his harem

pi pika chu.

>>9938930
Better ending.

In Ash's world he goes on to finally win the pokemon world cup.....right as he's about to claim the trophy, people start disappearing, one by one, he says his goodbyes, and he's left standing alone in the darkness....then pikachu comes running towards him, growing brighter and brighter.

Cut to his hospital room.

We see his mom at his bedside, crying, the doctor looks upset. apparently there's been no change in his brain chemistry for seven years, and his insurance has run out. with professor oak there to comfort her, she signs tohe release to have the plug pulled.

Shortly after the plug is pulled, he speaks these final wwords before falling dead.

"I wanna be the very best....."

WAIT WAIT WAIT.

Where do the girls come from then? What part of his psyche are they coming from? And why do they get successively more win with each new incarnation?

>>9939017
Also he- OH MY GOD FUCKING SAVED

>>9938922
It also explains a few other things, such as how a child can go off on his own in a world full of dangerous untamed animals, and why every pokecenter has the same exact nurse.

>>9939030
BAWLOLBAW

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING TO ME?

>>9939030
>>9938852
>>9938922

I spend my time coming up with explanations for why a some anime has taken a train to sucky-town.

>>9939030
;_; B-B-Baw....

>>9939030
OH GOD FAP FAP FAP ITS SO GOOOOOOD!!

>>9939051
Wait. Explain Brock's constant lack of poon. It has to be good.

>>9939030
Or, one day a boy wake up in a hospital his mother is netx to him.
-"mom i had a great dream i was in a world with creatures called pokemon and i was going to become a pokemon master but i woke up"
-"great ash, do you want to go out your wheelchair is ready for you"
-thanx mom, can i have a dog? i will take care of him and i have just the name "Pikachu""
-sure, sure...

>>9939091
Brock is ash's repressed sexuality, he fell into the cmoa a virgin, and needed an outlet for it. since he can never experience it, brock must never succeed.

>>9939091
Ash is projecting his cock-blocking nature

>>9939108
Not quite so sensational. He knows its a figment of his illusion. Borken.

>>9939030

I almost cried after reading that.

>>9939108
Thread is full of BawwwwwwwwWin.

>>9939030
I don't know whether to lol or cry, so I loled. Masterful.

>>9938878

fukken lawl

>>9939120
...THE THINGS YOU SAY. THEY HORRIFY YET MAKE ME MORE INTERESTED.

Obligatory.

>>9939030
This is now epic copypasta. Consider your e-penis large and in charge.

>>9939120
To further expand on this, one will note how misty, a tomboy, is another aspect of Ash's personality, his feminine side. the feminine side would obviously be upset at the womanizing side, which would keep a normal human being from acting like brock. This is why she constantly batters him.

I can explain the purpose of any character to ash's mindset within the coma to make it make sense.

We need a Pokemon Ultimate OVA series that fits the coma theory. Also, violence; cool, cool, violence.

>>9939163
lol Mr. Mime

>>9939108
then when ash was out in his wheelchair, he saw something.
a yellow creature like the one in his dream runing.
-"don't go please take me with you to the place i can walk and make a lot of friends."
He follow the yellow creature, and then he fell from a cliff.

>>9939163
WTF? Why you do this to my May?!

>>9939163
If it weren't for Mr. Mime I think I would have cried. This stuff is great.

>>9939030

Holy shit, I was really close to shedding a tear.

>>9939030
For some reason it reminds me of the Battle Royale scene when that crazy cunt dies and then it says, "I just didn't want to be a loser..."

>>9939172
Explain how James is soo gay.

>>9939172
Now explain the worldwide socialism. And how his subconcious constantly invents more and more harebrained ways for Team Rocket to try stealing pikachu.

>>9939163

>>9939194
LOOK AT YOUR PICTURE AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

Faggotry.

>>9939212
Obviously Ash's mind run out of innovative ways for Team Rocket. That explains why they're total losers in the new eps

>>9939233
May is no slut

>>9939248
AHAHA! Oh god I laughed so hard I scared my dog

>>9939212
It's the same thing as his community. Never experienced anything else, and couldn't at this point. He's only able to imagine landmasses besides his own because he used to dream about going to them and winning tournaments there. Also the reason Joys and Jennys are everywhere - those were just two figures he looked up to in his hometown so he projected them everywhere.

The team rocket thing is because he craves constant comic relief.

>>9939192
then his mother found the body of a death ash, she decided to burn his body, and trow away the ashes in the forest.
and like this the life of the young man called ash ketchup ended, that now was living in a world where he could run, jump and make a lot of friends.

Explain Ludicolo.

Do it. EXPLAIN LUDICOLO.

>>9939248
*sigh* Oh Ash...you should be the new Shirou

>>9939248
He seems like a cool guy.

>>9939297
Ash's Mexican side.

>>9939212
>>9939209
Team rocket is aspects of ash's personality that he has deemed "bad" james implied homosexuality, and jesse's vanity. You'll remember that meowth has the potential for rehabilitation, and doesn't want to be evil, so yet again this fits in with the confli\cting personalities theory.

Their methods of capture become more and more ludicrous ( and physically impossible) because ash is just a kid dreaming these things up.

The worldwide socalism can be explained if you once again realize that this is a dream world, he thought up a safe system of government that would run smoothly and keep the world going, allowing his adventures to work like they do.

>>9939248
HAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHA OH GOD

>>9939297

>>9939248
The coma explanation is the only possible way.

>>9939295
meh

>>9939299
>>9939305

I'm telling you /a/ I can explain anything pokemon related to have it make sense, and don't even get me started on where the naruto filler seasons came from.

>>9939030
I felt tears swelling up.

This is why bored psychology majors should(n't) watch anime.

I just figured out why everything after the first edition pokeymans are all shit, for the most part. Ash is making them up as he goes along. He only knew about the originals before his coma.

>>9939362

Explain Max.

>>9939377
Hey man...cool it with the Jigglypuff insults.

>>9939295
but then when his mother was going to trow the ashes a great light apeared, and from the ashes a baby apeared.
a baby with spike hair, and a powerfull finger.
Oh a baby ash mother said, can i keep him?
and so she take the baby and named him Phoenix, and she changed her last name to wrigth in the moment she heard his first word "Objection"
he is going to be a lawyer.
she was proud.

>>9939373 bored psychology majors
more like wannabe M. Night Shyamalan

and another thing.

Pikachu?

Pikachu obviously represents ash's Humanity, hence the episodes where they get separated, and ash wants desparately to find him, but for some reason cannot. Even team rocket is willing to set aside any differences to work together and find pikachu. They want to steal pikachu ( ash's humanity) and hand it over to his father. They will always be opposed because ash does not want to become anything like his father and no resolution can ever permanantly be reached. however he will temporarily reconcile with those aspects of himself in order to save his humanity from just becoming flat out LOST.

>>9939381

Max came with may, she played the ID with great aspirations, and he played the sensible Ego that "Session". They worked for a little while but ash, being a teenager eventually his sexuality had to come back into play. he kept reinventing himself and eventually Wrote new aspects, but his mind slowly brought back the old ones as a crutch to make the transition easier.

>>9939408
The time passed, phoenix became a famous lawyer, then a day he started to see a yellow creature, and started to follow it, he tought that he was crazy so he started to consume drugs, after some time he became a hobo and adopted a little girl but the image of the yellow creature didn't go away.

Also, why the elite four?

Why not one elite unbeatable trainer?

Because no person has one single psychological roadblock, and toppling all of them in one go would rend one's minds into shreds. I would assume that if he were ever to beat all four the coma would reverse itself.

i feel like sage

cmon /a/ gimme another character to explain away.

>>9939521
Bump for sage

>>9939325
Give this man a medal.

>>9939538

>>9939488
and so he meet a young man Apollo the reincarnation of a old friend of ash that died after some time, sad of ash death.

>>9939248

Oh god. I can't tell if Ash just said that to cheer up Dawn or if he's really that freakin' clueless.

>>9939538

Did you explain Dawn away already? If so, then what about his various rivals (Gary, Paul, that one other guy with a Pikachu as well, etc)

>>9939557
I fucking hate that faggot!

>>9938403
Gary Motherfuckin oak

>>9939426

hahaha, like GLfags

Besides him being the douche that everyone in life has, I hated his necklace and shirt.

Feel free to send me any stumpers you have.

Now it's time for Gary Oak.
Gary oak is what ash wants to be. He's wish fulfillment. he succeeded, and settled down to a normal life. ash needs someone to succeed in his world or he won't be able to validate it and will start questioning why he's where he is. it's a subconscious trap to keep him from becoming too aware of his situation. His mind must have figured out that awareness of the coma would snap him out of it, but it would cause major brain damage, so it took something the boy already loved and built a way out for him with it. however ash is too complacent to finally fight his way out of it, and cannot escape. this is why he keeps encountering legendaries, they're his mind's way of showing him he can do great things if he tries, and it's a way to encourage him to push forwards.

>>9939629

>>9939565
Dawn is ash giving himself a chance to love. since he already established misty as someone he's not likely to go anywhere with, he created a new super female, one that was more like him, and less violent all the time. ( you'll note that both may and misty had no tolerance for brock whatsoever whereas dawn seems to try and shrug it off.) Richie and his pikachu were another success story for ash, but he wanted one he could be closer with. One nearly identical to him. One that even used a similar roster to him.

Paul is ash's dark side, one that wants to push on even harder and harder, the part of him that will stop at nothing to escape this coma world.

>>9939641

Sorry Anabel, I'm afraid you are now being whisked away by Ash...ley

>>9939698
The reason for the new rivals is that gary settled down, he's living peacefully, and to bring him out of that would be to supress part of ash's wishes.There's no way his mind would let that happen, so his personality fragmented further, producing dark (paul) and light (richie) versions of gary.

>>9939734

I thought Richie is just a more competent part of Ash ...

Ashley = Ash's feminine side?

Mr.Mime is actually a stand in for ash's father, one that can't abuse him or his mom, because he is a pokemon, a peace loving creature that's oddly humanoid, but that can never hurt a human ( ash's trust is because he was never really hurt by a pokemon, so he sees them all as harmless, whereas in the real world they may be quite feral or vicious ( as seen in the early wpisodes), again falling back to the theory that the only real pokemon are the ones from the first season, and everything else is just further speculation coming from his mind on what new species would look like.)

>>9939777
Well....another fragment of it, yes.

>>9939734
Why does Ash often release, or get rid of in some way, his OMFG awesome pokemons?

I haven't seen awesomeness of this caliber in eons. I'm saving the train of ideas as best as I can, but I humbly request that this thread gets archived somehow; I already put forth a request on 4chanarchive.org

And the movies?

Ash has been switched to a new drug, and is adjusting to it, so his mind runs wild, allowing things to become grittier.

I'M LOLING LIKE THE FIST OF THE FUCKING NORTHSTAR

FUCK YES YOU ARE THE BEST POKEMON SUMMARY EVER

WHAT HAS THIS THREAD DOOOOOOOOOONE?!

I'd love to see a Mewtwo from the first movie explanation.

>>9939832
...WHERE DOES MEAT COME FROM IN THE POKEMON WORLD?

>>9939855
It's just made pogeymanz much more interesting to talk aboot, that's what.

Heracross represents something about breast feeding

>>9939868
O shi--

So you have all the answers, do you?
EXPLAIN THIS.

>>9939868
It is pokeyman meat, but Ash never makes the connection that pokeymans have to be KILLED to make it. He didn't realize before his coma, and he has mental blocks against things like death and abuse, so it's glossed over in a rather disturbing manner.

MY CHILDHOOD IS CRUMBLING

...

EXPLAIN MORE THINGS THAT WILL SHOCK AND AWE ME.

>>9939862

He could represent Ash's mind's first attempt at breaking out thanks to a new medication. However, the stress of this attempt lead to him having a mild stroke or he ended up in cardiac arrest, resulting in Ash's stone mode for that point.

>>9939813
He releases them because his mind is forcing him to let go of them. The second he raises an overpowered team, a tournament comes up, and after fighting his way through it he has to go to a new land for new challenges, but with an overpowered team, there won't be any challenges, and no way to motivate him further, part of ash wants to stay in the coma, and keep journeying.

The other part wants freedom, and to return to his real life, to finally become a real pokemon master. However if he's allowed to keep his powerful team there's no reason to meet and ame new pokemon, he'll lose interest, and the chance of becoming self-aware comes around again. so it's not that he gives them up, it's that he loses them, and unless he's desparate ( like with charizard) he can't get them back. it's basically his mind forcing him to deal with his issues.

>>9939901
OH GOD OH GOD

Who do you think I am?

>>9939911
so does this confirm that ash is red

>>9939911
Explain where the filler episodes come from. Especially the Team Rocket ones.

>>9939901
I don't have the screencap but during the episode where Ash went to the water gym in season 1 in the aquarium were real fish and not pokemon. So they have animals too.

Aah the reason team rocket's disguises are always believed. He knows it's them ( on some level), but chooses to ignore it, so he can better himself, in a sense escapist ash is sabotaging idyllic ash. So that there can be more conflict, and hopefully an eventual escape.

>>9939955
FUCK I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY PERSON IN THE WORLD WHO NOTICED THAT!

>>9938536
And what happened in his psyche when Ash became evil?

>>9939955
Oh there are real animals. But they don't matter to ash's psyche so they don't come into play much. if ash had loved puppies, everything would be about different breeds of dogs, and a dog fighting circuit.

>>9939955

But, as the series goes on longer, we've been seeing less realistic animals and more Pokemon.

Could this be a sign of his mind's deteriation? That, as he's in this coma, he's losing concepts of some animals and machinery and replacing them with Pokemon. It could explain things like electric pokemon working as power generators.

>>9939980
Ash's father visited him in the hospital, even in his coma world he could hear his father's voice and it drove him berserk.

>>9939999
Lol, psuedo-get.

>>9939955
All of the animals are contained in a lab and replicated to make food and shit. Nobody who knows about them wants them because they are powerless scum.

>>9939966
Yeah me too >_>

>156 replies omitted.

LOL

>>9939945

The filler episodes that don't focus on ash and the gang are ash's mind working through, and humanizing the parts of himself that he demonized. It's a way for him to deal with issues that ash and crew wouldn't touch, because it involves treading ground he himself had sworn not to go near.

So in a way, ash IS team rocket.

>>9940048
STOP MAKING ME RETHINK THE WAY I LOOK AT POKEMON

>>9940003
A sign that his memory of the old world is slipping more and more as time goes by. The pokeyman realm will be idealized continuously the longer he has no stimulus from the real world. He may or may not be mentally deteriorating (he was always simple), but he is becoming more accustomed to his fake world's rules.

Explain the Narrator

Explain Action Hero Ash.

>>9940048
This also explains why their outfits are different from the other team rocket goons.

They're white because they're a part of ash that he may deal with.

everything else, the rest of the whole organization is symbolic of his inability to escape his father. those three are the punching bags of the rockets because they're issues that ash himself displayed and was punished for by his dad.

>>9940078
It's his dad's voice.

Something is wrong with this picture.

>>9940073

It would also be a good reason why Paul has shown up at this point, and Ash has been forced to work with him on at least one occasion: It's his mind's last ditch efforts to snap him out of this, to force Ash to actually come to terms that this perfect world is not the best option and he needs to wake up.

WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK I AM??

>>9940078
The narrator is ash's Higher mind. It's recapping and explaining the progress he's made and the tribulations he will face, allowing itself insight into how best to awaken him.

>>9940048
Hm, didn't Team Rocket have some sob-stories about their pasts in one episode? I can't remember them, but I'm pretty sure they did. Explain those, if you recall?

>>9940085
Why does Jessie and James' relationship never go anywhere? And why do they have such convoluted childhoods? Especially James.

Rich kid turn bicycle gang leader turned Team Rocket turn failure.

What about Meowth being able to talk,
if anything, wouldn't he want his Pikachu to be able to talk?

Why didn't he evolve Pikach when he had the chance?

What is happening to Ash when he trades Pokemon with people?

Why does EVERY NURSE JOY AND OFFICER JENNY LOOK THE SAME?!

>>9940094
I see a normal dog in that pic. A NORMAL FUCKING DOG AND NOT A POKEMON DOG!

There appears to be a strange 4 legged furry creature that my pokedex can't identify.

Pokemon is now the saddest, most melancholic and thoughtful anime ever made

>>9940094
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT HIDEOUS CREATURE IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER?!

IT HAS NO SCALES, OR FANGS, OR ANY SORT OF DEFENSIVE OR OFFENSIVE NATURAL ACCOUTREMENTS! WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT...THING?!

>>9940123
As I said earlier, team rocket and the episodes they occupy are ash dealing with ground he feels uncomfortable with tackling on his own. James' troubled childhood is his way of justifying his latent homosexuality.

>>9940143
...Pokemon is now deep. Actual deep. Not DEEP.

Holy crap.

>>9940119

It could be an attempt on Ash's part to humanize Team Rocket as well, as part of his mental healing: Team Rocket isn't really evil. They're just jerk who have hit bad times. As time goes on, they seem to mellow out as well, to the point where the only reason why they haven't outright given up on villainry is "We want to make Giovanni (father) proud of us", a possible desire of Ash's that coincides his "I hate you dad".

>>9940101
I hate that nigger.

>>those three are the punching bags of the rockets because they're issues that ash himself displayed and was punished for by his dad.

So, Ash was gay?

>>9940147
>>James' troubled childhood is his way of justifying his latent homosexuality.

...HAHAHA OH WOW FUCKING WOW HAHAHA

>>9940169
...More or less yeah.

Then why is Dawn there though? Is she his subconcious attempt to create his perfect girl that ironically he cannot love?

>>9940134
Meowth had to talk to be more redeemable and accessible to his other bits of personality.

Evolving his pikachu would have challenged his concept of what his humanity was.

when ash is trading pokemon, it's an attempt to push his own problems away on someone else, however he realizes this and usually trades back failry quickly.

Joy and jenny he knew from his hometown, and they act as a safety net or anchor, allowing him to feel safe no matter where he goes.

>>9940094
Theres a dog!

>>9940155
I do try.

>>9939488
Trucy is now Dawn.

...DON'T MAKE ME REWATCH NEW POKEMON JUST TO DO WHAT YOU DO.

PLEASE DON'T. STOP MAKING THIS THREAD SO ENTERTAINING.

problem: The hero of the story is Team Rocket

>>9940198

It could be a simple case of Ash just being bisexual with a preference for girls.

>>9940163
So maybe their trying to steal Pikachu (as stated, Ash's humanity) is not only a way to impress Giovanni, but to make him a good man again so that he can appreciated his wife and child as he should have (or perhaps did, at one point). Ash is against this because, consciously, he knows that giving over his heart to someone who has been so hurtful to him and his mother will only cause pain for them both.

>>9940205
Pokemon is fucking deep. So what about his slut mother who became a prostitute after his father left her soon after finding out she was pregnant with ash?

>>9940241
appreciate*

>>9940222
What's a dog?

ash/shirou.jpg

I miss the good old days of torpedo breasts

>>9940198

I covered dawn earlier. She's Ash wanting love, a love he can justify. Thet's why she's so much like him. In fact I believe she may be an early onset of a multiple personality disorder.

>>9940250
yay!

Who wants me to explain the pokemon themselves?

Man, you know how in a coma you tend to shit yourself and have to be cleaned up and changed?

Ash's mom always insisted that he change his underwear every single day.

>>9940278
Explain the legendaries (the ones he encounters in the story, anyway)

>>9940278
do it

>>9940288
Already explained.He has pretty much covered everything.

>>9940278

yes.

>>9940288
Already did good sir.

They're ash's mind's way of showing him that he can break free. That he's has the power to do and be great things.

>>9940237
I think the girls are Ash's attempt to force himself to find an archetypical girl he can love to please his father. However, it is continually unsuccessful, as he is always romantically unattached to them yet always developing sentimental feelings for them.

His newest attempt is Dawn, yet as shown in >>9939248, it's not working too well. Dawn's unshown chagrin at Ash's blockheadedness is his desire to be straight lamenting at his gay side taking over his common sense.

tl;dr Ash can't fight t3h ghey.

>>9939163
>>9939163

Ash discovers that Team Rocket's ultimate goal was the fusing of all the most powerful Pokemon into one, ultimate Pokemon whose very existence would warp reality and make its controller (meant to be Giovanni) the ruler of the universe. Ash and Misty train for their final battle, and vow to be together when the battle is over. They, along with an army of Pokemon trainers and their trained-to-kill Pokemon storm Team Rocket's new headquarters as Giovanni puts the final phase of his plan into motion, fusing with the core of the ultimate Pokemon he plans to make. The core is none other than Wabuffet. In the resulting clash, Misty is impaled by a Rhydon, and slowly dies as her blood turns into water, becoming one with her Pokemon's power. Ash confronts Giovanni and is electrocuted by the backlash of Pikachu's power destroying his fuse machines. Ash survives, but Pikachu, having overloaded himself in the center of everything, dies in order to give Ash the chance to remake the world, but Ash rejects it, because it's not his place. Ash carries Misty's body to the ocean and places it in the water, then heads back home to Pallet Town to help instruct Pokemon trainers.

The End

>>9940302
See Giovanni for Oedipus Complex issues. Ash definitely has some latent interest in his mother.

>>9939030

That sounds good.

>>9940302

OM NOM NOM

What about Koffing and Ekans? Do they represent anything?

What about that GOD DAMN Pupitar? That had to have represented something.

What does Professor Oak, or all the professors for that matter, represent?

What does BROCK represent, because I'd LOVE to know this. Same goes for Tracey and Todd.

Hmmm... Is Misty's fear of bugs worth explaining?

>>9940339
He knew her before entering the coma, didn't he? She had a personality fleshed out already.

>>9940338
>>9940339
Aside from the professors, Brock's already been covered, and the rest is getting really superficial.

We're running out of stuff. It's been outragous though.

>>9940343
>>9940330
Oak and the other guy look exactly the same, proof that she got pregnant at a fairly young age.

>>9940369
Ah, right right.

Posting in an epic thread.

Now explain how Ash got himself wrapped up in the whole Brawl thing.

Brock is a pimp but sadly gets cock blocked in every other episode

Would Misty's Togepi represent a desire for offspring and a family of his own, or merely an attempt to defang Misty? Because she starts off as rather rageful, especially towards Ash, but after she gains Togepi she mellows out and acts much more motherly (mind you, it's mostly towards Togepi, but it's still a mild personality change)

>>9940343
First his father leaves him and his mother before he is born to go on his selfish desire to catch pokemon. Once Ash leaves, too, his mother in a pit of despair turns to Dr. Oak for sexual comfort.

>>9940397
HE HAS EYES?!

WHAT THE FUCKIN FUCK PUT THAT AWAY!

The pokemon in Ash's team are his issues, for example charmander represents his sex drive ( not his sexuality like brock ) at first it's a cute easy to control thing, but eventually becomes a raging inferno of disobedience. acquiring his team means getting new issues, but as he trains them, he works said issues out.

The wild pokemon are his rationalizations of the functioning of the world. it's the "a wizard did it" syndrome. If he doesn't know how it works, his mind says pokemon.

Other trainers are more direct forms of his issues, ones that he must either come to terms with or outright defeat.

And gym leaders are more primary aspects of his personality with each pokemon being stronger than the last, to display a level of skill he could be capable of if only he gave into it. in effect he is doing battle with a part of him that he would rather not have in control.

His rivals and the Elite four are ultimately the strongest part of this cycle. Having pokemon that are essentially godlike, they represent both what can be attained and what is unattainable.

>>9939862

Mewtwo was a new form of treatment, done with electric impulses and a machine to knock Ash out of it, taking down every last one of his mental guards (the original pokemon in the movie).

In Ash's mind, Mewtwo and his clones were the treatment for the mental safe guards that were protecting Ash and keeping him comatose; the pokemon of his world. The clones were counters to Ash's mental safeties, and so each appeared to Ash as the exact copy of his defense, intended to take it down by Force. The clones didn't play by the rules of Ash's world, they didn't use any special pokemon attacks or moves -they just beat down their counterpart by brute strength.

The treatment was working, but there were side effects. The electric jolts were beginning to effect Ash's nervous system, and if the treatment continued, he would be paralyzed. His mind realized this and manifested it to Ash by petrifying him in his dream. Were it not for the end of the treatment by Ash's mother (knowing her son would never want to live in a world he couldnt explore) Ash would have remained as stone in his dream.

After this, Ash needed to recover from the damage of the electric therapy. Obviously it was greatly dangerous to him, and in order to reduce the danger Ash's conciousness felt from it, Ash's subconcious began downplaying the effects of electricity in Ash's world, which is why Pikachus electric attacks -once noted for their strength by team rocket- no longer have any effect on Ash, other than comic relief.

>>9940398

An egg is also a sign of life and fertility

>>9940422
But this would tear poor Brock's mind apart. Which one would he choose?

>>9940418
>>The wild pokemon are his rationalizations of the functioning of the world. it's the "a wizard did it" syndrome. If he doesn't know how it works, his mind says pokemon.

Can't invalidate this at all. Damn. It makes total sense.

where is the part that everyone says congratulations and pickachu turns everyone into tang?

oh my god pokemon is awesome

This thread. It shocks and apalls yet I can't stop reading.

>>9940472
Meet what started the main point of this mess of win.
>>9939030

Ash is batshit insane about this hat and then when he got his new clothes in the Hoenn season he completely forgot about it.

Can we archive this?

>>9940505
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who forgot that from the first season.

Do we have a picture of 40% Ash?

>>9940515
Did you vote to? I think its every Anonymous' goal to have a large part in an epic-level thread. It took me six months.

>>9940515
Already has been, now don't start an insane train of "ARCHIVE THIS SHIT!!!!" posts.

>>9940338
Koffing and Ekans were symbolic of team rocket's willingness to change. hence the evolutions. once his mind beat that roadblock down and allowed them to change once, it gives him the chance to truly change.

Pupitar is a rationalization. a pokemon that a rival caught before he met him. Even Ash would become suspicious if everyone he met had no carry-over from pervious places he had been to.

The professors, like the Joy's and Jenny's represent stability, and ash's ideals. This is why gary became a professor.

Misty is an image that ash had of a girl,(this is why she plays so prevalently in the series but is ultimately unattainable before the coma. Likely the one that helped get him to a hospital.

Gravity-defying hat.

>>9940094
Proof, that even in a coma, Ash was really just a weeaboo faggot.

Give me a psychological rundown of Ash's Charmander/Charizard

Fuck, and here I thought no-one would gave a damn about my insane pokemon theories.

>>9940547
...wow.

>>9940554
You're stupid. Thanks for breaking the fourth wall dumbass. Now I'm reminded that it was an Jap kid's show with cultural celebrations still included. All the deep is gone now. Jerk, looking to prove your e-peen.

More of a silly question but... On the off-chance that Ash ever does wake from his coma, do you guys think he'll offer to buy Misty a new bike? After all, Misty was a real person all along and he probably really trashed her bike.

>>9940582

I already did.

>>9940418

OH LAWD IS DIS SOME ST. ELSEWHERE?

>>9940597
I'M SO SORRY!

>>9940582
Lol, already explained.

God daaaamn

>>9940586
CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHY ASH'S (JAPANESE?) CULTURE WAS SO PREVALENT IN THE FIRST SEASON YET EVENTUALLY DIED AWAY TO THE SORT OF CRAZY REGION-BASED IMAGINATORY CULTURE OF HIS WORLD?

Thread needs to be saved.

>>9940338
Koffing represents his innocence being stripped of him, because it evolved into Weezing

Now say what Luvdisk and Bidoof represent

>>9940600
That completely removes the precedent we already set in believing he's not getting out of that coma without being dead. That, and she probably left him after the first week after he got electrocuted.

I mean, she only met him for a couple of minutes. Ash's mom probably reimbursed her with her whoring money anyways.

>>9940656

Fair point.

>>9940436
I have a theory in line with this: Since Misty was his initial love interest (if only subconsciously), he needed her to reach a level of womanhood. He felt that people could only have relationships when they've matured. But in practice, it turned out he couldn't cope with it and just wanted the normal, pushy, arrogant Misty he knew, and wouldn't let her keep Togepi anymore. This was also traumatizing to him, being attached to it. Since then, the thought of anyone around him maturing to adulthood has been blocked, and anyone who shows signs of it will quickly end up leaving for another, more naive fill-in.

>>9940621

The same reason he discarded his original hat. He wanted to travel and broaden his horizons, every time he reinvented himself to do so, he lost touch with his original self. If he ever does escape the coma he'll likely have achieved a sort of zen state. Considering the amount of personal issues he deals with inside his head, it's entirely likely that he was the next Poke-Buddah, and that the lightning strike and subsequent coma are a way for him to realize his true self, and destiny.

>>9940586
Okay, well what about the contests? How it goes from just pokemon battles to the contests Dawn's always entering?

>>9940602
Explain Tracy, you know the guy who kept drawing pokemon, or then there was Todd, (the photographer.)

Jeez, now I want to break out my Pokemon Diamond after several months of not playing. This thread already had me listening to the "2.B.A Master" CD again.

>>9940602
did you do Brock yet?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VfnsDJzIM8o

Explain this

>>9940701
...Sweet fuck.

>>9940701
You know, I just realized that I'm interperting pokemon on a level akin to Evangelion, and I'm willing to bet that the next time you watch the show, your mind will be blown.

I can't really think of anything else to ask, but could you just go into more details? There are plenty of places where you just gave an example or two, but I want to hear more.
e.g. describing more of Ash's team.

>>9940716
Ash's hobbies in the real world.

What's with Jame's pokemon always abusing him?

What about Lickitung and Wobbafet?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DP24KR2nOzg

And this

>>9940716

A creative side of Ash, screaming out for some form of self-expression. Notice that, since the new pokemon have been appearing, artists and photographers haven't been so in the forefront.

He no longer has a need for them. Now his creativity is outleashed in the world around him (and, to a lesser extent, Team Rocket's maddening inventions).

>>9940751
Or things he'd wanted to do when he grew up, before he lost all touch with the concept of aging, having no need for it anymore. He kept those things with him, but not with himself - that would mean learning those skills which would mean growing up. It's sort of like when you want to be a astronaut or a doctor as a kid, Ash wanted to do arts.

>>9940767

Self-punishment for homosexual latencies.

>>9940724
Ash is trying to "fix" his homosexual aspect by constantly throwing girls at it. ( quite ironic when you consider that he supresses his straight side ( brocks)'s ability to get girls.

>>9940767
I think that they represent the vagina and Ash's fear of becoming straight and how the anti-gay complex is always causing pain for his gay side.

Bulbasaur was ash's unwillingness to change, this is reflected in it's unwillingness to evolve and how it almost decided to stay behind unless he battled it.

Squirtle was his willingness to follow the lead of others, as evidenced by the gang it ran with.

Butterfree was his crushing loneliness, which he dealt with when he released it to join a flock.

...Ash has BIG problems with his gay side according to this thread.

I never CAN watch pokemon again.

>>9940856

>Squirtle was his willingness to follow the lead of others, as evidenced by the gang it ran with.

Wasn't Squirtle the leader of his gang?

>>9940505
Wheres the delicious brown strong Joy?

Also to the earlier people concerning food in the pokemon world, in the games its cannon that they eat pokemon.

>>9940856
Speak more about Ash's homosexual tendencies. They make my inner-child cry.

I remembered how Jesse would replace James's weepinbel when it evolved, and I was going to ask about it, but I have a theory - Ash didn't want to let the "bad" traits of himself to get too strong. A third stage evolution is a symbol of power for him, and though he's okay with second stage ones, that would be too much. He needs to be able to easily pound those sides of himself or he risks giving up Pikachu to Team Rocket permanent and maybe going over to the "dark" side.

>>9940885
pics or it didn't happen

>>9940882
It was, however the gang functioned as a group, and operated as such. Hence the reason it displays this supressed aspect. To his mind they were one squirtle, and his desires just gave him the strongest one.

>>9940863

Less with his gay side, more with his dad's acceptance of it.

>>9940885
I think they eat both.

In the SS Anne episode when they were stuck on the little raft, James said that Magikarp was a delicacy in certain areas; but, he failed hard to prepare it and it was harder than steel. But still, one could find traces of animals in the Pokemon world in the show and games. Pikachu a "rat-like" pokemon and etc.

>>9940885
I think they eat both.

In the SS Anne episode when they were stuck on the little raft, James said that Magikarp was a delicacy in certain areas; but, he failed hard to prepare it and it was harder than steel. But still, one could find traces of animals in the Pokemon world in the show and games. Pikachu a "rat-like" pokemon and etc.

His bird types are his recklessness, always willing to sacrifice something at a moment's notice for the win.

An interesting thread? In my /a/?

>>9940863

>>9940931
a rat = rattata
Pokemon are divided into egg groups which could be taken as their genus. Since theres rodent pokemon and a rat pokemon we can assume that rat-like just means rattata like.

IM THE JUGGERNAUT, BITCH

This thread. It's amazing.

I'd like to hear more about his daddy complex. Do you think he has a full fledged NGE-competitive Oedipus Complexk with suppressed physical and emotional lust for his mother on top of his hate of his dad? That's how I lean.

If you're reading this in the archive, you're so totally gay.

Like Ash.

Explain how Brock's family situation (his mother leaving then coming back and fucking up the gym aswell as having many many siblings, plus anything else you remember) relate to his role as the manifestation of Ash's sexual desires.

>>9940962
Yessir, Since it's about summary time I figured I'd give this a whirl.

If you noticed the early episodes of pokemon were of amazing quality. I believe that when ash was struck by lightning he was put into a coma. The rest of the series is just the results of his subconscious mind fulfilling his desires, as well as attempting to escape them. should ash realize he's in a coma, he would wake up, but suffer brain damage. So he has to take down all his mental barriers one by one until he can come to grips with who he is and escape his coma.

He justifies anything he can't explain with pokemon, and real animals fall into the background because he has no real interest in them.

His travelling partners are actually aspects of himself he can enjoy, but doesn't like to associate with himself. Team rocket are his qualities that he Deems "negative", but is coming to terms with. However the team rocket organization has his abusive father sitting atop it. Jesse and James want to appease the father figure. Meowth especially wants to appease him because he remembers the good times with Giovanni.

This is my favorite thread on /a/. Ever.

Still needs saving.

I love this bread so much.

Ash has the best sinnoh rival since johto and kanto. He is not one of those, be friendly, lets work together type. He is a asshole to his pokemon (mostly chimchar) but he has some strong pokemon.

What about that guy, 99 wins 0 losses? What did him and his abuse of his Pokemon that still made them stronger mean?

>>>9941077

Jessis is Ash's vanity and gullibility, she will trick ash's submissive homosexuality into doing her bidding so she can Please father.

Now James is Ash's Latent homosexuality, hence why he is constantly punished by pokemon and attacked by random attractive girls. I believe the split between ash's parents was caused by this part of ash, maybe an incident at school, bringing shame on the family and forcing them to move to the hick town of pallet. Ash's motivations for his journey were to escape mounting pressure at home.

Pikachu is Ash's Humanity, this is why team rocket is always trying to capture it and bring it to Giovanni. They want father's love. This is why Ash sometimes Joins Team rocket to search for the lost pikachu. However what is unrealized is that Team Rocket also holds a part of Ash's Humanity in meowth. This is apparent in the fact that meowth is the only pokemon capable of speech.

>>9941049
Brock isn't just Ash's latent sexuality, he's also his fatherly instincts, neither of which Ash can come to terms with. Brock leaves his siblings to join the journey because Ash can't cope with having that much responsibility, much as his foray with a real relationship ends on mysterious terms. Ash just cannot handle commitment at his mental level.

>>9941049

It could be a possible view on Ash views his own mother. The massive amount of children could be a suppressed varient of her (Ash's mother in a different guise) being a whore, and her messing up the gym and Brock's life is rage Ash has at his own mother for not trying harder to keep Giovanni around or even for keeping him alive as he's in a coma.

By having this as the mother of one of his different sides instead of "his" own mother, this leaves him in a place where Delia can be sainted. Delia is not a whore, at least not in his mind; Delia is a good woman, who's happy to stay at home and remind him to take care of his wash.

Thread is incomplete without Tracy explained

>>9941144

Ash's Rivals are possible futures he envisions for himself (note that they are all older than him). This originated with Gary Oak, Someone ash knew from real life, and built up into a sort of god within his mind. Gary, however progressed and changed to suit Ash's vision of himself and ultimate desire, eventually settling down into a professor after beating the Elite Four.

With Gary in retirement his mind needed a new rival for him Thus the births of Richie ( the Good aspect of his rivalry) and Paul ( as the darker aspect, a cut-throat ash, willing to do anything to escape the coma world).

That episode about Gloom must have related to "Girls only clubs" in Ash's younger days, and his acceptance of perfume at the end and cross dressing were ways he tried to justify his sexuality or wanting to fit in with the girls.

>>9941219

Like it was theorized, Tracy is either Ash's desire to become an artist or his creativity placed in an outlet where it's minimal.

>>9941219
Hes been explained...

Tracey, The Breeder was a possible future for ash that he discarded. It was one that he sent off to work with the Professor (the professors being ash's ultimate ideal of a father figure) when he disrupted the dynamic ash had with his other possibles. Ash's mind is fighting the coma and since Ash viewed this one as a companion he was quickly replaced with a more threatening Rival.

>>9941219
Oh I meant Todd, but still

Hmmm... With the movies explained... Would you care to explain the video games?

>>9941298

More of ash's Artistic side, but tinted with a vouyeristic aspect.

>>9941326

Not Ash.

What about MUDKIPZ?

>>9941344
Mudkips represent Ash's feelings for others, and how he wants his feelings to be reciprocated.

And Ditto would be...?

Back to summarizing.

The Legendaries Are ash's mind telling him that he has the power to do great things, and thus escape his happy- go lucky reality.
The Jenny's and Joys are symbols of comfort and normality, hence why they're everywhere.
Brock is a Projection of his sexuality, and is constantly shot down because ash can never KNOW sex.
Misty is ash's first attempt at a girl he could love, however, being a girl from the real world, that all he knew of her was her anger, she ended up very angry. Constantly berating his sexuality, but eventually mellowing out until she had faded into the background.

>>9941393

And Dublica.

>>9941393
Oh, would Pokemon Master Blaster care to explain the ditto that would always have the ditto face no matter what it turned into? (Or did I memorize that completely wrong?)

>>9941414

Ditto was some of ash's childish side, wanting to mimic others, however he rapidly dealt with this issue and it didn't recur, also since ditto was one of the original 150, ash had previous knowledge of it.

>>9941437
The face didn't change so he could more easily identify it, and the troubles it could cause him if left unchecked.

Summary again

Every time Ash enters a new region, reinventing his image of himself every time he does so, and making it impossible for other parts of his mind to identify that new self. this is why he gains no recoignition for his previous deeds. it is also why he gets a new team, he discovers after taming a given set of issues that he has a whole new group of them to discover and tame. Also, his mind is keeping the world within him from stagnating, and if one considers it, ash may be of genuis level intelligence.

>>9941440
>>9941472
did a fantastic job of delivering

Ash: Biggest tsundere in HISTORY.

How the fuck did all this happen from a Pokemon and GL comparison thread...

>>9941589

Somehow, GL brings out the inner awesome in all anime.

Little bit of shameless whoring, but I'm part of a production called "The Absurd Skype induced Show" where rambling about the greater ramifications of popular culture is one of my specialties.

Now that the whoring is over....
Time for elaboration/rewrite of the original sad ending I put up.

The episode starts in a hospital. We see Delia, obviously distraught talking to a doctor with a grim look in his eye. He's saying that their insurance is up, and the boy has had no change in brain activity for seven years. That a shock like this may awaken him. She tearfully agrees.
Professor oak is there to comfort her as they take Ash off life support.

Cut to Ash's mind.

Ash has finally defeated the elite four, and one by one the people around him start disappearing. eventually everything is black. Pikachu comes dashing towards him glowing brighter and brighter in the darkness. Eventually pikachu reashes ash and the two embrace one last time.

Back in his room, as his life signs fade, ash Mutters these final words.

I...Want...To...Be,

The...Very...Best.

>>9941644
;_;

>>9941644
DAMMIT STOP DOING THAT! I got teary-eyed again.

>>9941589
GL comparison?

>>9941644
That was simultaneously the most horrible and beautiful thing I've ever read ;_;

>>9941644
still got me

Now it all makes sense.

Am I crazy for wanting a fan comic or fan fic of this? Focusing on his demise, the real world, and what has become of the real people who show up in his delusions.

>>9941685
If you apply this logic to it, pokemon instantly becomes the single most deep, thoughtful, and entertaining anime you'll find.

This just in!

Sales of DVDs of the children's hit series "Pokemon" have suddenly skyrocketed! What could have caused this unpredictable event?!

>>9941644
I love the image of his gaunt, tube-fed, ten-some-year bed ridden body on the bed. His head appears bulbous from atrophy. As he utters his last words, he barely opens his eyes, seeing a silhouette of the figure at the center of his turbulent emotions, his mother, her face obstructed by her hands wiping away tears. He makes contact with her eyes and lets out one last tear before losing all strength. She breaks down in hysterics.

I just imagined the writing staff of the anime reading this. Then realizing that this was a way to save their asses from being known as the guys that wrote for that kiddy show "pokemon".

and make them the guys that wrote the epic saga into one's subconscious "pokemon"

Woah, another insight.

Ash stays in the woods and on trails and such more often than not because generating a full "city" is a lot of work, and it's easier on his mind to just make the woods with his more prevalent issues (team rocket and his friends/pokemon team) This is also a more efficient way of healing him.

>>9941910
He also wants to reconcile images he saw as a child, giant metropolises (maybe even the place he was originally from) which seemed dystopic and terrifying. The only "cities" he wants to exist are ones that are utopic and green, with few cars, no light or noise pollution, etc. The forests he's actually been to are mostly medium or small sized areas, but his childlike ignorance made them sprawling and lush lands of fertility.

Slightly more touching ending.

It turns out that it was his father paying the life support those seven years. Sort of justifying the whole James being rich thing.

The worst part of all this is that ash will die, never having experienced actual love, imagine if you will, having lived in a world like his, completely shut off from all things but yourself, and your perception of yourself, with nothing to do but better yourself. no other people to interact with, and a boatload of issues.

The boy will die, Never having known his dream, except as naught but a dream. the second he gets out into reality for that last moment, part of him knows it was all a lie, his faithful pikachu? his friends? all his imagination, and maybe, he could have fought and clung to life, maybe even made a full recovery. But knowing that his efforts and ambitions had all been for naught, he just gave up and let the motion carry him away, just so he could be with pikachu, in a place where his friends were waiting.

The thread is slowing down because everyone who read it is trying to self-induce a coma.

>>9942037
DAMN WHAT IS THIS DISCHARGE COMING FROM MY EYES!!!

>>9942053

The same theory can be applied to inuyasha, only with kagome having gone comatose falling down the well.

Every anime that has gone to suck can be explained with comas.

>>9942037
I like to think that he'll realize that his mother loved him and was holding out hope that he'd recover all that time. On the flip side, though, when he sees her he knows that the hope she had is totally broken and she'd come to the crushing realization that the worst thing that can befall a parent has happened to her: outliving her old child. At once he knows he is loved and that it means that the one closest to him is utterly crushed.

>>9942087

Manly tears.

Manly, Manly tears for Satoshi, the boy who knew life only in death.

>>9942124
old = own*

>>9942037

You just made me tear a little bit.

>>9942087
Come here...Let me hold you.

I also have a "Good End" planned. Not as sad, but pretty powerful as well.

>>9942188
Please enlighten us, good sir

>>9942188
planned = incomplete?
can we get the gist of it?